diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
index 4cfc09c8..b3bff05c 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
@@ -45,14 +45,12 @@ namespace hr {
 namespace ads_game {
 
 void change_default_key(int key, int val) {
-  char* t = multi::scfg.keyaction;
+  char* t = scfg_ads.keyaction;
   t[key] = val;
-  #if CAP_CONFIG
-  set_saver_default(t[key]);
-  #endif
   }
 
 void set_default_keys() {
+  clear_config(scfg_ads);
   change_default_key('s', 16 + 0);
   change_default_key('a', 16 + 1);
   change_default_key('w', 16 + 2);
@@ -65,6 +63,7 @@ void set_default_keys() {
   change_default_key('i', 16 + 9);
   change_default_key('k', 16 + 10);
   change_default_key('l', 16 + 11);
+  sconfig_savers(scfg_ads, "ads");
   }
 
 void restart() {
@@ -132,8 +131,6 @@ void run_ads_game() {
   }
 
 void set_config() {
-  set_default_keys();
-
   nohelp = true;
   nomenukey = true;
   no_find_player = true;
@@ -266,5 +263,7 @@ auto hook1=
       });
 #endif
 
+auto hook2 = addHook(hooks_configfile, 100, set_default_keys);
+
 }
 }
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/control.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/control.cpp
index 66096eb8..ebe8c7b0 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/control.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/control.cpp
@@ -2,6 +2,8 @@ namespace hr {
 
 namespace ads_game {
 
+multi::config scfg_ads;
+
 vector<string> move_names = { "acc down", "acc left", "acc up", "acc right", "fire", "pause", "display times", "switch spin", "menu", "[paused] future", "(paused] past", "[paused] move switch" };
 
 void fire() {
@@ -80,7 +82,7 @@ void fire() {
 
 bool handleKey(int sym, int uni) {
   if(cmode & sm::NORMAL) {
-    char* t = multi::scfg.keyaction;
+    char* t = scfg_ads.keyaction;
     if(t[sym] >= 16 && t[sym] < 32) return true;
     if(sym == 'v') pushScreen(game_menu);
     if(sym == SDLK_ESCAPE) pushScreen(game_menu);
@@ -139,7 +141,7 @@ ld read_movement() {
   }
 
 bool ads_turn(int idelta) {
-  multi::handleInput(idelta);
+  multi::handleInput(idelta, scfg_ads);
   ld delta = idelta / 1000.;
   
   if(!(cmode & sm::NORMAL)) return false;
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
index e3efb12f..78c33e39 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@ void game_menu() {
   dialog::add_action([] { current.T = Id; vctrV = Id; });
 
   dialog::addItem("configure keys", 'k');
-  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Relative Hell keys"));
+  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Relative Hell keys", scfg_ads));
 
   #if CAP_AUDIO
   add_edit(effvolume);
diff --git a/rogueviz/bringris.cpp b/rogueviz/bringris.cpp
index 7d917137..e26fbf6f 100644
--- a/rogueviz/bringris.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/bringris.cpp
@@ -61,6 +61,8 @@ namespace subquotient {
 
 namespace bringris {
 
+multi::config scfg_bringris;
+
 struct bgeometry {
   string name;
   string cap;
@@ -1346,7 +1348,7 @@ void settings_menu() {
   dialog::addItem("visuals & Virtual Reality", 'v');
   dialog::add_action_push(visual_menu);
   dialog::addItem("configure keys", 'k');
-  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Bringris keys"));
+  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Bringris keys", scfg_bringris));
 
   #if CAP_AUDIO
   add_edit(effvolume);
@@ -1612,7 +1614,7 @@ void run() {
       explore = false;
 
     if(state == tsFalling && !paused) {
-      multi::handleInput(0);
+      multi::handleInput(0, scfg_bringris);
       bool consumed = false;
       for(int i=0; i<bmLast; i++)
         if(multi::actionspressed[16+i] && !multi::lactionpressed[16+i]) {
@@ -2038,16 +2040,12 @@ int args() {
   }
 
 void change_default_key(int key, int val) {
-  char* t = multi::scfg.keyaction;
+  char* t = scfg_bringris.keyaction;
   t[key] = val;
-  set_saver_default(t[key]);
   }
 
 void default_config() {
-  for(int i=0; i<512; i++)
-    if(multi::scfg.keyaction[i] >= 16 && multi::scfg.keyaction[i] < 32)
-      change_default_key(i, 0);
-  
+  clear_config(scfg_bringris);
   change_default_key('s', 16 + 0);
   change_default_key('a', 16 + 1);
   change_default_key('w', 16 + 2);
@@ -2057,6 +2055,7 @@ void default_config() {
   change_default_key(' ', 16 + 6);
   change_default_key('\r',16 + 7);
   change_default_key('p', 16 + 8);
+  sconfig_savers(scfg_bringris, "bringris");
 
   addsaver(bgeom, "bringris-geometry");
   addsaver(use_raycaster, "bringris-ray");
diff --git a/rogueviz/nilrider/nilrider.cpp b/rogueviz/nilrider/nilrider.cpp
index 13403d95..a76f9e06 100644
--- a/rogueviz/nilrider/nilrider.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/nilrider/nilrider.cpp
@@ -39,6 +39,8 @@
 
 namespace nilrider {
 
+multi::config scfg_nilrider;
+
 /** is the game paused? */
 bool paused = false;
 
@@ -83,7 +85,7 @@ void sync_music(eLand l) {
 bool turn(int delta) {
   if(planning_mode && !view_replay) return false;
 
-  multi::get_actions();
+  multi::get_actions(scfg_nilrider);
   auto& a = multi::actionspressed;
   auto& la = multi::lactionpressed;
 
@@ -246,7 +248,7 @@ void run() {
   dialog::add_key_action(PSEUDOKEY_SIM, toggle_replay);
   dialog::display();
 
-  char* t = multi::scfg.keyaction;
+  char* t = scfg_nilrider.keyaction;
   for(int i=1; i<512; i++) {
     auto& ka = dialog::key_actions;
     if(t[i] == 16+5) ka[i] = ka[PSEUDOKEY_PAUSE];
@@ -363,7 +365,7 @@ void settings() {
   dialog::addItem("projection", 'P');
   dialog::add_action_push(nil_projection);
   dialog::addItem("configure keys", 'k');
-  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Nilrider keys"));
+  dialog::add_action_push(multi::get_key_configurer(1, move_names, "Nilrider keys", scfg_nilrider));
 
   #if CAP_AUDIO
   add_edit(effvolume);
@@ -540,17 +542,13 @@ void main_menu() {
 bool on;
 
 void change_default_key(int key, int val) {
-  char* t = multi::scfg.keyaction;
+  char* t = scfg_nilrider.keyaction;
   t[key] = val;
-  #if CAP_CONFIG
-  set_saver_default(t[key]);
-  #endif
   }
 
 void nilrider_keys() {
-  for(int i=0; i<512; i++)
-    if(multi::scfg.keyaction[i] >= 16 && multi::scfg.keyaction[i] < 32)
-      change_default_key(i, 0);
+  clear_config(scfg_nilrider);
+  
   change_default_key('s', 16 + 0);
   change_default_key('a', 16 + 1);
   change_default_key('w', 16 + 2);
@@ -564,6 +562,8 @@ void nilrider_keys() {
   change_default_key('b', 16 + 6);
   change_default_key('r', 16 + 7);
   change_default_key('v', 16 + 8);
+
+  sconfig_savers(scfg_nilrider, "nilrider");
   }
 
 bool nilrider_music(eLand& l) {