diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
index f6075288..91895fac 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/ads-game.cpp
@@ -342,6 +342,9 @@ auto shot_hooks =
     param_f(time_scale, "rh_time_scale")
     -> editable(0, 1, 0.1, "Relative Hell time label scale", "scaling factor for the time labels", 'T');
 
+    param_f(time_shift, "rh_time_shift")
+    -> editable(0, 1, 0.1, "Relative Hell time label shift", "shift for the time labels", 'U');
+
     param_i(XSCALE, "ds_xscale")
     -> editable(4, 512, 8, "x precision of Earth-de Sitter", "", 'x');
     param_i(YSCALE, "ds_yscale")
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/display.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/display.cpp
index f5bfd620..faa5dd98 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/display.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/display.cpp
@@ -23,6 +23,14 @@ void apply_duality(shiftmatrix& S) {
 vector<ads_object*> under_mouse;
 hyperpoint mousetester;
 
+void view_time(const shiftmatrix& S, ld t, color_t col) {
+  if(!view_proper_times) return;
+  auto S1 = S;
+  if(time_shift) S1.T = rgpushxto0(S1.T * C0) * ypush(time_shift);
+  string str = hr::format(tformat, t / (main_rock ? ds_time_unit : ads_time_unit));
+  queuestr(S1, time_scale, str, col, 8);
+  }
+
 void draw_game_cell(const cell_to_draw& cd) {
   bool hv = mtwisted;
   using cellptr = cell*;
@@ -104,10 +112,7 @@ void draw_game_cell(const cell_to_draw& cd) {
 
   ld ads_scale = get_scale();
 
-  if(view_proper_times) {
-    string str = hr::format(tformat, cd.center.shift / ads_time_unit);
-    queuestr(shiftless(rgpushxto0(cd.center.h)), time_scale, str, 0xFF4040, 8);
-    }
+  if(col >> 8) view_time(shiftless(rgpushxto0(cd.center.h)), cd.center.shift, 0xFF4040);
 
   // need i-loop because new rocks can be created in handle_turret
 
@@ -177,10 +182,7 @@ void draw_game_cell(const cell_to_draw& cd) {
         0x000000FF, rock.col, obj_prio[rock.type]);
       }
 
-    if(view_proper_times && rock.type != oParticle) {
-      string str = hr::format(tformat, rock.pt_main.shift / ads_time_unit);
-      queuestr(shiftless(rgpushxto0(rock.pt_main.h)), time_scale, str, 0xFFFFFF, 8);
-      }
+    if(rock.type != oParticle) view_time(shiftless(rgpushxto0(rock.pt_main.h)), rock.pt_main.shift, 0xFFFFFF);
     }
 
   if(paused || which_cross) if(hv) for(auto& rock: ci.shipstates) {
@@ -240,10 +242,7 @@ void draw_game_cell(const cell_to_draw& cd) {
       queuecurve(shiftless(Id), 0xFF, col, PPR::MONSTER_FOOT);
       });
 
-    if(ok && view_proper_times) {
-      string str = hr::format(tformat, (cr.shift + rock.start) / ads_time_unit);
-      queuestr(shiftless(rgpushxto0(cr.h)), time_scale, str, 0xC0C0C0, 8);
-      }
+    if(ok) view_time(shiftless(rgpushxto0(cr.h)), cr.shift + rock.start, 0xC0C0C0);
     }
 
   if(paused && c == vctr_ship && !game_over && !in_replay && !hv) {
@@ -389,10 +388,7 @@ void view_ads_game() {
         });
       poly_outline = 0xFF;
 
-      if(view_proper_times) {
-        string str = hr::format(tformat, ship_pt / ads_time_unit);
-        queuestr(shiftless(Id), time_scale, str, 0xFFFFFF, 8);
-        }
+      view_time(shiftless(Id), ship_pt, 0xFFFFFF);
       }    
     }
 
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/ds-game.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/ds-game.cpp
index f9b9277d..737f899a 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/ds-game.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/ds-game.cpp
@@ -616,11 +616,10 @@ void view_ds_game() {
         queuecurve(shiftless(sphereflip), ghost_color, 0, obj_prio[rock.type]).flags |= POLY_NO_FOG | POLY_FORCEWIDE;
         }
 
-      if(view_proper_times && rock.type != oParticle) {
+      if(rock.type != oParticle) {
         ld t = rock.pt_main.shift;
         if(rock.type == oMainRock) t += current.shift;
-        string str = hr::format(tformat, t / ds_time_unit);
-        queuestr(shiftless(sphereflip * rgpushxto0(rock.pt_main.h)), time_scale, str, 0xFFFF00, 8);
+        view_time(shiftless(sphereflip * rgpushxto0(rock.pt_main.h)), t, 0xFFFF00);
         }
 
       if(rock.pt_main.h[2] > 0.1 && rock.life_end == HUGE_VAL) {
@@ -676,10 +675,7 @@ void view_ds_game() {
           }
         });
 
-      if(view_proper_times) {
-        string str = hr::format(tformat, (cr.shift + ss.start) / ds_time_unit);
-        queuestr(shiftless(sphereflip * rgpushxto0(cr.h)), time_scale, str, 0xC0C0C0, 8);
-        }
+      view_time(shiftless(sphereflip * rgpushxto0(cr.h)), cr.shift + ss.start, 0xC0C0C0);
       }
 
     if(!game_over && !paused) {
@@ -705,10 +701,7 @@ void view_ds_game() {
         });
       poly_outline = 0xFF;
 
-      if(view_proper_times) {
-        string str = hr::format(tformat, ship_pt / ds_time_unit);
-        queuestr(shiftless(sphereflip), time_scale, str, 0xFFFFFF, 8);
-        }
+      view_time(shiftless(sphereflip), ship_pt, 0xFFFFFF);
       }
     
     if(paused && !game_over && !in_replay && !hv && !which_cross) {
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/globals.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/globals.cpp
index be362e2b..31d6880c 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/globals.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/globals.cpp
@@ -66,6 +66,7 @@ void change_scale(ld s);
 vector<struct ads_object*> displayed;
 
 ld time_scale = .5;
+ld time_shift = 0;
 
 color_t missile_color = 0xFF0000FF;
 
diff --git a/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp b/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
index c0151d69..3b750934 100644
--- a/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
+++ b/rogueviz/ads/menu.cpp
@@ -205,9 +205,10 @@ void game_menu() {
   add_edit(pause_speed);
   add_edit(view_proper_times);
   add_edit(DS_(time_unit));
-  if(view_proper_times)
-    add_edit(time_scale);
-  else dialog::addBreak(100);
+  if(view_proper_times) {
+    add_edit(time_scale); add_edit(time_shift);
+    }
+  else dialog::addBreak(200);
 
   dialog::addItem(XLAT("set view mode"), 'v');
   dialog::add_action_push(edit_view_mode);