diff --git a/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/about/History of TiddlyWiki.tid b/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/about/History of TiddlyWiki.tid
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@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ type: text/vnd.tiddlywiki
 
 //These are personal reflections on the history and development of TiddlyWiki from JeremyRuston.//
 
-//There is also a [[podcast|https://changelog.com/196/]] discussing TiddlyWiki's backstory.//
+//There is also a [[podcast from 2016|https://changelog.com/podcast/196]] discussing TiddlyWiki's backstory as well as a [[recording from 2021|https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/620]].//
 
 ! Origins of TiddlyWiki